I have already made some posts on the different walls that have surrounded the ever bigger Paris.
There is still a rather large number of traces of the Philippe Auguste wall from around 1200. So far I have posted about the largest visible part in the St. Paul area and also about some more discrete ones along the Rue des Francs Bourgeois. I have also referred to one in the small alley, Cour de Commerce St. André and its adjacent court, Cour de Rohan.
Since I made this later post, the place where one of the towers is hidden, a showroom, is under renovation which makes the view through the windows easier. On top of what can be seen is a private home, still inside the tower.
I was told about another trace in an underground parking place, rue Mazarine. I have no car any more, but you can of course enter also as a pedestrian. I wonder how many of the car owners realise that some of the walls are some 700 years old. Paris was on lower grounds when the wall was built and it can be seen as well on the first as the second underground floor.
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how interesting that these old walls are still so integrated and visible in modern Paris - layers of history literally exposed to everyday view..
Very interesting! The parking lot looks way different from the ones that we normally see!
tout cela pour finir dans un parking ;o) encore une partie de l'histoire de Paris que je connaissais pas, merci
So chic de garer sa bouzine le long de ce mur! Il n'y a que toi pour nous montrer de pareilles trouvailles! A très bientôt ;-)
I could not imagine a treasure inside a underground parking place, wow 700 years old is really important!Thanks so much for sharing!
About cars...Just early morning today I got my Luxembourgian carte de conducteur,I've changed it using my Brazilian card, but I need to wait until Spring because I'm afraid to drive with snow! ;)
Have a great week!
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Léia
That's excellent Peter - a 700 year old wall in a car park!
Actually, I think there's enough material for a book on the car parks of Paris!
Well it's safe to say we would never have found that wall in the car park if we stayed here a
month! The top photo is gorgeous.
Leter!
V
C'est sûr qu'en tant d'automobiliste on est plus intéressé par la place à trouver que par les murs. Je penserai aussi aux murs la prochaine fois.
Au bout de ma rue à Epinal il y avait les anciennes fortifs d'Epinal et des personnes nécessiteuses y habitaient dans des immeubles qui les cachaient. Depuis cela a été "réhabilité". Je connaissais des enfants de ces immeubles et nous montions chez eux par l'escalier du donjon. Notre maison de famille date de la révolution française, certes pas de 7 siècles mais la descente à la cave valait les vues que tu montres.
Extraordinaire, le mur de Philippe Auguste dans le parking. Il n'y a pas de plaque sur le mur pour les automobilistes curieux ? Si je m'étais garée là je n'aurais eu aucune idée que ce mur datait du 13ème siècle. Je suis épatée !
Comme toujours, tu nous déniches des choses étonnantes.
Quant à moi je viens encore de voir par ma fenêtre quelqu'un glisser et tomber sur la glace devant chez moi. La rue est tout à l'ombre et ne risque pas de dégeler de si tôt. Je n'ai pas envie de finir à l'hopital comme Stuart. Je vais rester à l'abri chez moi ! Bises
Another interesting post. It begs the question if the walls were built by people employed by the occupation or Rome or if they were slaves who were fed and housed somewhere.
I would guess that most car owners wouldn't notice the walls or if they did, not consider how old they were....but maybe they already know and are used to all the history around them!
Après le Paris du dessus, le Paris du dessous, bientôt les catacombes ?
This could only happen in Paris!
What a fabulously, fantastical city.
Jim
Fascinating! It's marvelous descovering Paris with you, Peter!
Ancient walls popping up everywhere, Peter. Marvelous.
Just another reason for me to return to Paris. This is the kind of stuff that lures me back. Thanks so much for these posts.
It is extraordinary how people in Paris live their lives surrounded by history. Where I live in L.A. I am surrounded by nothing older than 25( including the people;-).
Les siècles passent mais les murs de pierres demeurent.
Je suis un peu comme Nathalie, rien ne dit aux automobilistes que ce mur date de Philippe Auguste !
On en apprend tous les jours avec toi.
Quand à ma bannière, j'avais envie de changer un peu, alors Paris me convient bien avant de changer.
To touch such walls unites oneself with history, it's fascinating.
Photographier des parkings souterrains quand on n'a pas de voiture ! Il n' y a que toi pour faire des trucs pareils.
Would you like to be painted against this wall Peter?
Not so difficult as Laduree Bonaparte...ahem
The contrast between the walls and the parking is dizzying!
Gorgeous!
Amazing! I love your descriptions of these fascinating and little known corners of Paris. Nothing as old as that exists here.
Fascinating and great pictures.....as usual.
Wow! A car park with a 700 year old wall! Paris is endlessly fascinating.
That's the most elegant parking ramp I've seen. I have always liked when establishments retain existing architectural features for new structures.
imposing walls with great history,..who would've thought it would traced back to some 700 yrs ago and would end up in some p.lots?! ^0^
Beautiful to see traces of the distant past here in the present, and still standing...
Love the contrast of the very old with the new in the parking lot.
and once again - quite ready, well done pages for your book, Peter!!
And so interesting!
HPY knew, what is your thing, when she suggested blogging to you, I remember, that you mentioned it some day :)
Have wonderful week!
Catherine:
Today, we try to save these old traces of history. This has not always been the case. :-)
V Rakesh:
Yes, all parking place are not like this! :-)
Olivier:
Mieux que disparaitre complètement! :-)
Alice:
Tu pourrais essayer de te garer par là? :-)
Léia:
In the meantime you can use the train to Paris! ... or let Cezar drive! :-)
Adam:
Let's talk about the book! :-)
Virginia:
I guess you have to know that it's there, especailly if you are not driving and looking for a parking place! :-)
hpy:
Tu ne trouveras pas ces murs partout! :-)
Cergie:
Ca fait déjà une vielle maison! :-)
Nathalie:
Il y une plaque sur le mur que tu trouveras un fois en bas. :-)
Abraham:
This wall was built some 800 years after the Romans had left. I don't think that any slaves were involved, but perhaps the workers were not extremeley well paid. :-)
Neva:
I think that very few people would pay attention! :-)
lasiate:
Bonne idée, les catacombes! Bientôt! :-)
Designlinger:
Well, there are old traces also at some other places - Europe, Asia, South America... :-)
Claudia:
You already know Paris well, but perhaps one days we can discover some for new places together? I hope! :-)
SparkleMirror:
I will look for other traces! :-)
BobAlescio:
Anything that bring people back to Paris make me happy! :-)
La Belette Rouge:
There are days I wish I was 25! :-)
Claude:
Ton amour pour Paris reste intacte, c'est bien! :-)
SusuPetal:
I did touch them! :-)
Alain:
Je connais une autre personne qui aurait pu le faire! :-)
Amatamari:
Yes, it's surprising! :-)
Shammickite:
One day a few things will be old also over there... if you don't destroy them! :-)
Starman:
Thanks for your kind words ... as usual! :-)
Cheryl:
It is! I hope you will be able soon to notice that on the spot! :-)
Ruth:
Sometimes the integration is succesful! :-)
Arabesque:
Better at a parking place than not at all! :-)
Owen:
Not easy to make these fall! :-)
Leena:
Yes, I think it was a good idea by hpy! :-)
ParisBreakfasts:
I would be happy to! :-)
From Cali:
Yes, a nice contrast! :-)
I really like the photo you have made with the satellite view and the photos showing where the segments of the wall are located. This is very complete work, and I really like the depth with which you approached this post! You always give me something to aspire to with your work.
Really, Peter, I "feel a book" in your posts -- especially this one! It's such a side of Paris that people do not normally focus on. To me, that is book-worthy stuff. :) Very well done on this one!
Karin:
Thanks! I do my best, but so many books have been written about Paris! :-)
Pas du tout surprise...non. Oups...pour une fois je connaissais et grâce à qui ? Je te demande un peu ?
Catherine:
Merci de m'avoir accompagné! :-)
This is what digging really is!! ;)
Tu fais concurrence au livre "Métronome" !
Trotter:
:-)
Deslilas:
Difficile, mais oui, j'ai lu! :-)
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